The Interview

Megan: Hello! Good to see you. So you are a theoretical astrologer with a master's degree in philosophy?

John: Thank you, glad to be here. Yes, something like that.

Megan: First, let's begin with a question about religion: In your opinion, is there a God or an almighty creator that answers prayers and offers salvation or forgiveness?

John: No. But most people need to feel secure in a higher power looking out for them. I do believe there are Spiritual entities within this system that exhibit what might be called ‘Godlike' qualities that fills the role expected of a heavenly creator when the need arises.

Megan: Can you give me a specific example of how that might work, such as with Christianity?

John: In the case of Christians, Jesus Christ is here in Spirit, and has within his capacity the role of fulfilling his Father's love, goodness, and bounty for those followers with staunch beliefs, but within certain physical bounds. Gautama the Buddha is here also, and serves those of the faithful through his teachings. They will stay in this system for as long as the religions they established continue to exist.

Megan: What do you mean? "within certain physical bounds"

John: The laws of physics cannot be breached except in rare circumstances and then only by higher authority. I am not certain how that works, but we do see occurrences such as miracles that seem to defy explanation.

Megan: OK, let's move on. You have suggested that there are many creators throughout the universe. Do you opt for a polytheistic view of creation?

John: Very proper question! Yes, in a sense, if we consider Life intrinsically theistic by nature, but a pantheon of Gods, no. There are also numerous potential creators throughout the cosmos including our world; in fact I believe all human beings are here for that reason. Yes, they live, play, and suffer their share of ill fortune, but the real reason they are here specifically is to acquire experience, knowledge, and wisdom. Soon thereafter they are free to work in the higher planes of reality once they are relieved from the toils of their bodies here.

Megan: What do you mean by ‘potential' creators?

John: Life carries a force allowing the possibility for entities with universal creative capabilities to attain extraordinary objectives. We live our lives in our thoughts, and our ideas work in creative ways that we cannot even begin to imagine until we are set free to see the pattern of the whole picture.

Megan: What might these ‘extraordinary objectives' be?

John: First, several assumptions have to be considered, and an open mind is always helpful. The first assumes that the universe is a sentient entity, or cosmic consciousness. This is already accepted by certain Eastern thinkers. The second assumes that life is the conveyor of Spirit. This should not be too difficult to accept, although atheists believe only what their senses tell them. The third assumption is problematic and logically difficult to explain, and that is an understanding of a First Cause. Is there anything bothering you about these assumptions?

Megan: No, but then I don't have any strong religious feelings. What role does life play in the universe?

John: Life is a meld of mind and matter with unique qualities. In higher evolutions, soul, in a personal sense, and spirit, in the general sense, is the power giving rise to intellect or thought expressed through the persona or ego while housed in the brain. Living entities are ensouled with Spirit while bound to their bodies on this planet, and free between lives to continue their lessons within the heaven that is the solar system. Once attaining to the level of Master, or some other such designation, spiritual entities are not bound to anything and can freely navigate the vast system. They know what has to be done. Powerful beings here, and in numerous other niches throughout the heavens, are an integral part of a chain of events that perpetuates the birth of stellar systems, and the formation of galaxies within every universe – not to mention maintaining the balance and status quo between what is ultimately nothing and paradoxically something: namely, the ongoing replenishment of sentient universes in the multiverse.

Megan: It sounds easy, but building something as mind boggling as a universe is a huge leap. What kind of energy are you talking about?

John: Besides all the physical forces, energy comes in another form that is ethereal in nature. It is associated with the cognitive aspect of the power that spawned the universe initiating the force behind motion and a time continuum allowing for the accretion of matter. This energy continually reinvests itself in various ways. Spiritual domains manifest in sentient structures held in stasis by material forms hosting this latent but vital force. From a spiritual heaven to a single soul, life makes it all possible while enabling and sustaining the process. Embodied souls, such as ourselves, have chores and challenges that build character and stature. Ultimately, this translates and transforms into higher universal protocols establishing access to platforms where work is ongoing from lower to higher levels of existence. Existence is not a given; it is more like a constant. Within the multiverse, in evolving cycles, a universe forms generating power released by stellar entities; in turn, stars fashion systems of planets with the potential to produce life. The dimensions of a universe are defined by the galactic glow from the stars that deliver the power the process requires. When the glow goes out, the universe has reached its end, although life has moved on and spiritual work continues elsewhere.

Megan: Could this eerie substance be what scientists and astronomers are calling Dark Matter?

John: Excellent question. Astrophysicists have discovered that without this still undetected ‘stuff' the physical properties of matter cannot be properly explained. They have to assume it's out there enveloping whole galaxies, and include it in their calculations. It is very significant because Dark Matter is associated with gravity, and gravity controls how matter works. It is the scaffolding that holds matter together. Even less understood is Dark Energy. It makes up most of the mass of the universe causing it to expand. I believe it is closely associated with Dark Matter, and represents the maturing of a young universe.

Megan: So you're saying human beings play a critical role in how the universe, or for that matter, our reality, functions?

John: Yes, the attainment of knowledge is cumulative, and the intellect of ideas, or information, creates the foundation for new spiritual structures. The blue print of any system is defined by mathematical constructs that describe the behavior of material forms, and I believe this is applicable to every universe, and hence the multiverse as well.

Megan: What spiritual structures are you referring to?

John: Planets, stars, galaxies, universes, and the multiverse.

Megan: But, are not these just physical objects usually attributed to an almighty creator?

John: I believe there are other ways to look at things that offer better explanations. I don't claim to have all the answers; that is why my ideas rest on assumptions. The difficulty for most people to grasp, or believe, is that the physical universe is phantasmal, ephemeral, here today, gone tomorrow. The sages of the snowy ranges in Tibet call it Maya. We would say illusion. All physical objects have a beginning, do their thing, and pass on. Our eyes and hands see and feel nothing but the finished product. You sit down to eat with a knife and fork; a knife is a very handy tool, before it was a tool it was an Idea. That is why religions seem to be somewhat simplistic: God makes man, man makes knife–done deal–but they were in the Mind first. God is really just an Idea that you envision in your own way, and according to what you were taught. In my view, life is the temporary carrier of sentience, which we call the soul while in the body, and spirit after leaving the body. The philosopher Plotinus best describes the metaphysics of how it works. Given what I've been saying so far, here is a shocking thought for most folks to ponder: highly evolved spiritual Beings are the true and only Creators; people are Gods in training.

Megan: Be careful, you might have men in white coats with nets chasing you down the street! Just kidding, how does it all work together?

John: What we see here is a structured interconnected pattern that is, in a sense, cyclical movements in time through stages. Highly evolved spiritual entities, through soul, give birth to stars in stellar systems creating galaxies. The same principles are at work in laying the ground work for a universe. A family of universes constitutes a multiverse. It is self perpetuating, and knowledge is preserved through these eternal cycles.

Megan: So, everyone is part of all this?

John: Of course, but you have to realize that a single life exists for a very brief period of time in the scheme of things. We have a soul that upon our death will merge with the sum total of all of our previous souls that form our true spiritual Self. A soul is just a segment of our Spirit, and our Spirit is a product of all the individual segments. It is interesting to realize that we can trace our lineage all the way back to the first living things on this planet, with each segment representing a stage of evolution or period of development.

Megan: Most Christians do not like the idea of evolution because it seems to contradict the Bible. Is this a problem?

John: It is for them, apparently. Mr. Spock and I believe that thoughts, opinions, theories, and beliefs, ought be logical. For me, soul is the animating principle of life that keeps everything going. Contrary to the Bible, the first life was microbial and formed between three and four billion years ago. Once the DNA molecule was put together, much greater diversity began, the knowledge for that design came with the knowledge that passed to us with the birth of our universe. Life as soul carries the Intelligence that makes our existence possible.

Megan: Spock, the Vulcan? Okay. Your first assumption about a ‘sentient' universe seems a bit of a stretch to me. How could it be possible?

John: I believe that possibilities precede actualities driven by necessity. Consider this. The scientific community is generally in agreement that the universe began with a Big Bang. So you have three choices. 1. Deny that finding as heretical, and assume Almighty God created everything as related in Genesis, and that we are here to fellowship with God. 2. Accept that there is no way of knowing, what, when, why, or how anything happened before the Big Bang. 3. Or consider my view as a legitimate possibility. It is not beyond a ‘stretch' that potential creators within any given universe over eons of time within the flow of life acquire the means and wherewithal to create other universes from within their ‘parent' universe.

Megan: This is a perplexing concept, unless you're thinking that size and distance are relative to the various systems under discussion. So, spiritual beings must work between various levels?

John: Yes, very good. There are natural openings to the realm of what we might call ‘nothing' that provides conduits for intelligence in the form of ethereal energy to pass through while expanding into space and time forging the building blocks of matter creating a new dimension. The sentient cloud formed by a Big Bang generates stellar beings as galaxies take shape. Gravity is the glue that holds everything together, but is at the same time a ‘magic carpet' for the movement of Spirit within or between systems. Many universes, interconnected by worm holes, constitute the multiverse. This is our reality; the only reality we have, or need.

Megan: I have heard that worm holes could be at the center of Black Holes. Would you agree?

John: Yes, Black Holes are the portals or conduits just mentioned. Professor Hawking has found that what scientists call ‘information' can pass through, and this is consistent with our discussion. That is how a new universe forms within an older universe, but is independent of it, much like a mother giving birth to an infant–a new soul. Whether a new universe or infant, they are equivalent. Remember that all living things are spiritual entities with each possessing their own unique ‘soul-ness'. But there is a big distinction between plants that don't think, and animals bound by instincts. Only humans have a high level of intelligence commensurate with a highly evolved soul. That is why all life is considered sacred from the lowest to the highest, but we should be reasonable about it. Recently I did not hesitate to squash that baby scorpion crawling across the floor toward my bare feet, sacred or not.

Megan: I get it. Is the universe restricted to life being like us?

John: I would suggest that other intelligent beings within our galaxy may not look anything like us. They may evolve breathing methane, for example, but we might be able to communicate psychically while appearing to them in astral form. The galaxy is far too big to ever make physical contact with other entities, unless we can manipulate time, or master warp speed . I can even imagine the convening of a galactic council, membership restricted to civilizations without weapons of war, of course.

Megan: Astral form? I am sorry to say that I don't understand some of the terms you use, and although everything sounds reasonable, it is all very new to me.

John: Please remember that this is just a brief sketch, and speculative at best. It is all highly theoretical, and not an easy thing to contemplate without understanding the scaffolding that these constructs rest upon. I am sure that what I believe sounds rather cold and calculating, and lacks all the warmth and comfort that religions offer. And yes, it is difficult to understand because the question of how, why, and when it all began is somewhat akin to asking how you get something from nothing.

Megan: It sounds like we have come to the third assumption, the First Cause. Where do we go from here?

John: Often into the realm of paradoxes. This is where the mind, always seeking what is logical, gets in a quandary. Our thoughts travel on the language we use. Whether we are talking to ourselves or to an audience, this is how we think and communicate, but it limits us to our vocabulary. Beyond semantics, we rely on intuition, and reflection, which is more implicit than explicit. And not to be left out, the imagination is virtually limitless in the things it can conceive. Who knows, maybe the multiverse exists within the space between the atoms that makes up my silver belt buckle. Weird huh? We have not even begun to talk about other dimensions, like the strange eleven dimensions of String Theory.

Megan: What exists outside of our universe?

John: Presumably other universes, otherwise, nothing. No time, no space, it is simply an Eternal Void. If we assume that our universe is the only universe, then we're left with absolute nothingness when it's gone. Paradox? Can you think of total nonexistence? No, because thought is fundamental; life would be a contradiction if it were not. Ask yourself this: did we discover higher math, or invent it? To paraphrase Heidegger, "It is not possible that Is is not, because Is is." For me, the multiverse concept is easier to understand when thought of as an everlasting phenomenon that is continually coming into Being and passing away simultaneously everywhere.

Megan: So, science cannot answer all our questions, religions don't satisfy everyone, and further explanations seem to ask more questions.

John: That's about it. Einstein once believed the universe was eternal, and the steady state model was popular. Then we discovered the background radiation left over from the Big Bang, and soon discovered that the universe was born some 13.7 billion years ago. It was a huge discovery. Spiritual, metaphysical, and religious interpretations need to be consistent with facts about the universe or they lose a great deal of credibility.

Megan: What would you suggest I tell my six-year-old when he asks where everything came from?

John: Tell him that God made everything. But you are on your own when he asks where God came from. Like Santa Claus, most of us grow out of those old beliefs, yet we still like to hang onto our hallowed traditions. Especially the babe in the manger visited by the three Magi, they knew the stars held the message that guided them.

Megan: Thank you for our interesting discussion.

John: You're welcome.

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